Comments on: ‘An exercise in revisionism’: Crikey readers correct the record on the 2009 CPRS https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/ On politics, media, business, the environment and life Sun, 08 Sep 2024 01:45:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Hoojakafoopy https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-751084 Sun, 08 Sep 2024 01:45:21 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-751084 In reply to David W.

In 2013 the Australian electorate was under the spell of News Corpse, Nein… have we woken up yet..?

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By: Elisa M https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-751001 Sat, 07 Sep 2024 02:05:43 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-751001 Glad to see that most readers are aware that Labor’s „Miss, miss, it was the Greens!” is just another bs story aimed at discrediting the rival Labor’s afraid of.
The author of the first comment needs help.

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By: David W https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750890 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:46:24 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750890 The Greens carbon tax/price was very effective – no argument. Labor under Gillard undertook to introduce it after the Greens held a gun to Gillard’s head – take it, or we won’t support your government after the 2010 election. Gillard had promised that no government she led would introduce a carbon price/tax, so she should have declined the Greens’ offer and called another election. To top it off the Greens carbon price/tax was so good that Australia voted to have it repealed by the Abbott government in 2013. Perhaps Labor were aware of the contentious nature of the Greens’ excellent carbon tax/price way back in 2009…..

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By: Michael B https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750806 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 05:15:59 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750806 The CPRS was a junk policy, and just like today’s alp policies, it was designed to protect the big polluters and penalise smaller businesses and the people. It didn’t deserve to see the light of day, so good on the Greens for sending it down the gurgler.

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By: Drew https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750801 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 05:02:40 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750801 In reply to Gonggongche.

And some of their own were indirectly not much help in reducing carbon emissions vs fossil fuel Koch modus operandi, by promoting ‘sustainable population’ (after expanded NOM spiked population) of ZPG and nativist Tanton Network channeling proxy white Australia; too easy.

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By: Roger Clifton https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750799 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 04:59:10 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750799 Yes, a carbon tax leaves “few loopholes for polluters to weasel their way out of paying”. Even Ross Garnaut, who once said that a carbon tax is not flexible enough, now says that carbon should be taxed as it comes out of the ground. This way, it provides an audit for exactly how much fossil carbon is being released into the atmosphere. No doubt, fancy accounting will then duck and weave as to who has to pay and when, but the amount gets carved in stone.

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By: M T K https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750766 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 04:19:12 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750766 In reply to Jack Robertson.

You have been hypnotised by ALP ‘aboutism’. CPRS was and a disaster for the environment and would’ve been a tragic win for the industry

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By: Kimmo https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750638 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 00:51:11 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750638 In reply to Kimmo.

Oh hey, we can say shit now!

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By: Kimmo https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750635 Fri, 06 Sep 2024 00:14:46 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750635 In reply to Jack Robertson.

Does endorsing fraud count as the sort of routine shit sandwich you say must be eaten?

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By: Bolivar diGriz https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/05/labor-greens-2009-cprs-your-say/#comment-750633 Thu, 05 Sep 2024 23:58:22 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173505#comment-750633 In reply to Jack Robertson.

The CPRS ball the Greens had to play was to either vote yes or no to putting a price on carbon.

You say that as if the CPRS consisted entirely of legislation to put a price on carbon. There were a few more pages than that. Among other things, the CPRS would have legislated a licence to pollute. Pay a sum of money and keep pumping out increasing amounts of CO2.

It was the usual ALP tactic of making a token gesture aimed at a large problem and washing their hands while declaring “mission accomplished”. (The same as the ALP’s original “plan” to “fix” the housing crisis last year.) And the choice for The Greens was then as it is now: stick to their principles or give it all up in order to let the ALP pass legislation that has no other intended purpose than to provide a dot point for the junk mail they’ll stuff in our letterboxes during their next election campaign.

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