Comments on: The Oz’s unfortunate pic, Social Services (finally) asks what people think, and an old fashioned Fordham farrago https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/ On politics, media, business, the environment and life Sat, 31 Aug 2024 05:56:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Doug Fraser https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749437 Sat, 31 Aug 2024 05:56:36 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749437 In reply to HereWeGoAgain.

The striking thing about this segment of the article is the way that it convicts Ms Grover, not of guilt by association, but of guilt by absence of association. No evidence is produced that she has anything in common with Liz Truss, Matt Lawson or Ben Fordham or has ever been in contact with any of them. The one thing that links them is that they believe, or might be induced to believe, that they have been cancelled. This is a false analogy along the lines of “All Greeks are men, Socrates is a Greek, therefor all men are Greeks”.

I know no more about Ms Grover’s political leanings than I did before I saw this article; it may well be that she has excellent right-wing credentials, but no evidence is quoted for them. The worst you can do is produce a picture of her looking hard-faced; and I imagine you’d look hard-faced too if you’d just been slapped with a $10,000 bill, plus god knows how much in lawyers’ fees, just for minding your own, apparently harmless business.

Admittedly her willingness to associate herself with the evil CPAC is a lapse of judgement. But it’s just as likely to be the result of political naivety, political disengagement, or simple indignation at finding herself the victim of a miscarriage of justice, as fellow-feeling. Interesting to compare her reaction to that of Kirsha Kaechele who, in response to a similarly improbable judgment, had the flair, the cheek and the progressive credentials to show up the law for the ass it sometimes is.

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By: Doug Fraser https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749412 Sat, 31 Aug 2024 04:16:24 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749412 In reply to paradise.

OK, your pants stink too. Is it too much to ask that we all try to discuss this as adults?

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By: Maldinis Heir https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749385 Sat, 31 Aug 2024 02:07:11 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749385 In reply to Zeke.

T for trans.

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By: HereWeGoAgain https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749238 Fri, 30 Aug 2024 07:01:01 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749238 It’s “inevitable” that Grover joins the CPAC circuit when moderate publications continue to deplatform her sensible, moderate views which are still shared by the vast majority of Australians.

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By: HereWeGoAgain https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749233 Fri, 30 Aug 2024 06:43:05 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749233 In reply to Michael Smith.

Bit like Crikey censoring Gender Critical comments, really. Even when they explain “What’s a ‘t’ as in Zeke’s comment below.

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By: paradise https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749029 Fri, 30 Aug 2024 01:13:25 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749029 Fordham is a poocoatedeepfried turd, incapable of radio decency or relevancy.

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By: Zeke https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-749001 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 22:22:09 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-749001 In reply to Maldinis Heir.

What’s a ‘t’?

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By: Gonggongche https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-748970 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:21:09 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-748970 “You were bred for humanity and sold to society. One day you’ll wake up in the present day, a million generations removed from the expectations of being who you really want to be.” ~ Jethro Tull

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By: Gonggongche https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-748969 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 12:11:35 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-748969 Spoiler alert: this uses a clean pun on country.

Sir Winston Turnbull was a rambling country party member of parliament, with a slow and stumbling manner of speech. At one sitting he was ranting and raving away and said ‘I’m a country member”. Gough Whitlam as quick as a flash interjected “I remember”. Turnbull couldn’t understand why there was instant applause from both sides of the house for once.

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By: joe F https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/08/29/the-australian-picture-ben-fordham-acma-cpac-2024/#comment-748950 Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:11:38 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1172040#comment-748950 Why is Sydney talkback radio dominated by guys whose real job is calling footy?

It would be a bit like Brian Taylor suddenly being the number one mornings host in Melbourne.

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