Comments on: We might not love Qantas, Jetstar or Virgin, but the market made them like this https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/ On politics, media, business, the environment and life Thu, 05 Sep 2024 10:37:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Andrew C https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750578 Thu, 05 Sep 2024 10:37:02 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750578 In reply to Jackson Harding.

It is a fascinating thought experiment – to break up Qantas and see what happens. I suspect your fear that QF will simply eat its young is right, unless there is decent, strong regulation. An anathema, I know. But that is exactly what Koala will need in any event. The slots stuff is also fascinating – we need to turn the language around. The 80-20 rule does not require you to use the slot 80% of the time, it allows you to waste it 20% of the time. The history of slots is one of incumbent’s justice.

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By: Peter Wotton https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750283 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:54:28 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750283 A VFT from Sydney to Melbourne would have negated the need for the second airport at Badgery Creek with energy savings

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By: Drew https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750205 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 04:51:07 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750205 In reply to Jackson Harding.

Would be interesting and also highlights a glaring example of how big business in Australia, local & foreign, expect protection from the government, faux ‘free market’ with customers who should be ‘quiet Australians’ and not complain?

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By: Drew https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750203 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 04:47:09 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750203 In reply to Mark F.

Agree, but up against fossil fuel, motor vehicle and airline lobbies, while looking at fast trains, regulation of airlines, faster transition to renewables in the EU etc. which are avoided like the plague….. why?

Because Australians, egged on by another cartel our RW MSM, like ‘Big’ monopolies, duopolies, cartels etc. and running protection for the same, while moaning about supposed ‘Big Australia’.

If EU directives on business inc. airline competition were adopted with passenger compensation schemes, QANTAS would have to ditch Jetstar and all airlines adopt passenger compensation schemes. However, this is all too difficult for Australian businesses to deal with including basic customer service for passengers?

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By: Jackson Harding https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750190 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 04:13:00 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750190 It would be interesting indeed to see what would happen if QanStar was forced to demerge, creating three carriers, not two, in the Australian market. Would Qantas eat it’s young and take back those routes with aggressive competition and force Jetstar out of business, or would Jetstar’s now substantial scale see it able to compete and survive? And if it did survive what would become of Virgin?

Koalas are critically endangered. I suspect their namesake airline is as well.

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By: Andrew Bonnell https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750166 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 03:33:45 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750166 Why did we privatize airports? They went from being vital public transportation infrastructure to rent-seeking monopolies fixated on raising revenue from parking and shopping, instead of investing in future transport needs.

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By: Mark F https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750150 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 03:14:07 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750150 Among the hardest sectors to decarbonise is aviation especially long distance large planes. There are already a few small electric short distance planes. It’s not impossible but will almost certainly require extensive public funding and ongoing subsidy. This is far more important duopoly issues but we can’t even manage that better.

The claims about high speed rail are as expected from the competition. As with other large infrastructure projects involving lots of tunnels and bridges we should just contract out hi speed rail to China. Bring their own workforce with temporary accomodation, all the rails, concrete support section, wiring, signalling and rolling stock. No chance of course with Barnaby, Rupert or the remnants of the CFMEU but quite doable and prob at fixed price. Adelaide – Mel – Syd – Bris ideal for high speed rail and prob some regional like Geelong, Newcastle and Gold Coast.

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By: Who Cares? https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/04/qantas-jetstar-virgin-flights-concentration-market-australia/#comment-750131 Wed, 04 Sep 2024 02:44:40 +0000 https://www.crikey.com.au/?p=1173014#comment-750131 Sustainable aviation fuel. Like carbon capture and storage, it is a furphy. You are still burning hydrocarbons and emitting GHGs.

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